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Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Questions on the Edge




Shalom,


Welcome to the first virtual meeting of Jews on the Edge (JOE).

JOE is co-sponsored by www.TheFullHit.com - promoting Spiritual and Intellectual nourishment for the Jewish World (managed by Elyakeem)



Let’s get started.

Please feel free to bring up any questions, suggestions, observations that will help move the conversation along.

Here are some of the ideas and questions that I would like to ask.
Hopefully these questions will stimulate a dialogue and provide a broader framework to address different issues and raise new questions.

But that depends on each of you.

1) Jews on the Edge is an experiment in creating a network of people who will be able to share their professional experiences, share stories and raise questions.

2) We also hope to further expand whatever network you have already established.

3) Provide an opportunity for many of us to learn how to engage in the practice of “spiritual marketing.” in order to earn parnasah and at the same time be immersed in the words and world of Torah.

4) Provide “working” stipends for your project – go build an ark!

Comments can be posted anonymously,
but we invite you to join the new community of
Jews on the Edge


· Request an invitation to join the BLOG

· Tell us who you are and what you do, teach, create etc… .

· Add comments to postings and new topics to the discussion.

· Be part of the new JOE e-newsletter


I. Stories, Experience and Needs

How are you surviving???

What painful experiences have you been through and how can the community help?

What has helped you in your professional career?

What do you need from JOE to improve or enhance your situation?

How successful have you been in networking with different people and institutions?

Where and what kind of problems have you encountered?

What audiences are you reaching? How?





II. How to Get Involved

Would you like to be part of a small cadre of individuals who help organize, research, write grants and raise money for JOE?

Would you be willing to share your network contacts with other people?

Would you like to receive a stipend from JOE in order to ease the financial burden?


III. Spiritual Marketing

Can you learn to be a successful entrepreneur.

Do you want to learn how to improve your marketing skills?

Would you be interested in a seminar on spiritual marketing online?

Would you attend a seminar on spiritual marketing?

Can you teach any of the skills necessary to create a personal brand?

Do these kinds of questions make you uncomfortable?

What other information would help you to be more successful or financially stable?




What are the first actions steps?

17 Comments:

  • At 4:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The deeper meaning of money - and, in the broader sense, of earning a living (parnasah, livelihoo)- is dealt with in Jewish tradition both ethically and with courageous humanity. The Kabbalah of Money, by Rabbi Nilton Bonder is a study of the ecology of money, involving the health of all forms of exchange, transaction, and interdependence.

    Perhaps we should also talk about the ethics of being a "spiritual teacher"?

     
  • At 4:53 PM, Blogger Eyakeem@YourSpark.com said…

    Usually Jewish art can't make $ and support someone if its marketed inside the Jewish community. Does this mean that Jewish offerings are supposed to be marketed outside the community but be perfected within the community?


    What is your greatest pain based on the topic?

    What would they like to see their community look like?

     
  • At 5:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think Jewish art is usually always a confluence of Jewish and non-Jewish sources - yes, i think it should be "perfected" in the community and yes, we should think about market strategies to sell to the larger world.

     
  • At 5:04 PM, Blogger Eyakeem@YourSpark.com said…

    My work is on www.YourSpark.com as a marketing consultant and

    www.TheFullHit.com is the events promotion arm The Full hit of spiritual and intellectual nourishment. so join the google groups for it.

    and leme know when you got something to develop.

    I liked R Bonder's book.

     
  • At 8:03 PM, Blogger Reb Josh said…

    hi,

    There may be many of you who come to this blog at 8 pm and are somewhat confused. The questions posted should just be a guide to help you share your insights and issues. Since comments are posted almost immediately, we can have a "virtual" experience. However, I suspect that there are many other who will tune in later on this evening or tommorow or next week. The time setting simply stated the official launching of the network - Jews on the Edge. As more people contribute and new ideas emerge the conversation will continue. Periodically I will ask guest writers to contribute to the blog, we will use more sophisticated media, with video and audio options.
    I am happy to say that the network has already created all kinds of new connections and a certain synergy is created through the entire network.
    This is part of the process of a fluid, growing web of connections.
    Thanks for joining in the conversation.

     
  • At 8:14 PM, Blogger Yehuda said…

    So here I am. What's happening?

     
  • At 8:16 PM, Blogger Reb Josh said…

    I want to especially thank Elyakeem for his wonderful network of friends and his commitment to finding people on the edge.

     
  • At 8:18 PM, Blogger Reb Josh said…

    Hello Yehuda,

    take a look at the questions on the blog and the comments that have already posted. Then join in the conversation.

     
  • At 8:27 PM, Blogger fmyilmaz said…

    Hi Guys,

    I am deeply interested in this network... I am writing book in Turkish... In this book I m trying to show some of the Sufis who are practicing Judaism in fact... That's why I need this network...

     
  • At 8:31 PM, Blogger fmyilmaz said…

    One more thing... I think forum style is better than blog for this kind of activities.

     
  • At 8:32 PM, Blogger Yehuda said…

    Maybe I don't know how to blog yet but it seems kinda slow. So I'm going to a shiur. If anybody needs film work I'm your local award winning ace. (see www.asacredproof.com )

     
  • At 8:51 PM, Blogger Michael Gottsegen said…

    I think that for better cross-pollination we might want to engage one another by sharing key texts (classic or otherwise, written or pictorial or video or musical) that have been significant to our own sense of vocation as "Jews on the Edge." Placing something on the table, in common between us, will help us to become more appeciative of one another and help us to develop a fuller sense of what brings us together. This would help to jell a sense of chevra that would also sustain the more tachlis aspects of our future collaboration. In short, it would knit as a chavura.

     
  • At 8:53 PM, Blogger Michael Gottsegen said…

    What I am suggesting is not really for tonight but for, say, next week. And it would also take advantage of the asynchronous aspects of the medium... i.e., that we can share and connect in a real way without doing so in real time.

     
  • At 8:57 PM, Blogger Michael Gottsegen said…

    Real time video or audio are nice adjuncts but as the small number of us here right now attests -- and as the listserve idea originally incarnated -- the beauty of web-mediated communication is the capacity to connect while overcoming the need to be in the same time at the same place.

    This said, I would suggest to you Josh that you might want to take the lead by putting a text into play as a common text for us all to connect to as we come to connect to one another, a text that surfaces some of the issues that you feel are core to what it means to be jews on the edge, if you prefer. Then encourage members of the network to come, read, post and respond.

     
  • At 9:12 PM, Blogger fmyilmaz said…

    ok guys,

    I am leaving... I would like to help for this network anything I can do (Such as press contacts, programming, and SEO (Search Engine Optimisation)...

    On the other hand I need really help for my book I mentioned above (Sources, interviewing, office etc..)

    Well could someone (Rabbi Josh I think) plese tell us what is the next?

     
  • At 9:19 PM, Blogger Eyakeem@YourSpark.com said…

    fmy email me @ Elyakeem@YourSpark.com

     
  • At 1:12 PM, Blogger Reb Josh said…

    Hello,

    I write this to get a better idea of why there where so few people who actually came to the blog and left a comment. I recieved many requests to be part of this dialogue. Was it a technical problem? Did you expect something different? Would love to hear from anyone.

    thanks

    rabbi josh saltzman

     

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